Electra, and the spinning of beliefs
Posted: 22 Feb 2026, 13:37
a little dive seeking for connections, at first to see if there was maybe a connecion to ancient tech, batteries or a way of lighting a fire with amber. Also interesting for the questions we have discussed om electromagnetism.
The Nazis built an amberroom, maybe it would have Vril-powers?
A Rock Is Trapped Light
But other things I found are already interesting, my roaming mind connecting dots, that nicely string like beads on the tread of OL. So, I tried to find hours of enjoyable documentaries to illustrate the train of thought, that will hopefully lay a map where you may find worthwhile ways to progress in your spiritual understanding.
In Greek amber is Electra, the name of a caracter in Oresteia, a play about revenge and justice. Also interchanged by different writers with the name Laodike (etymology below), connecting (democratic)judgement with amber - which of course(both?) came from the illustrous North.
(This play however may have a post-war bias, and other things to consider searching a reason for the use of her name and the general plot/lesson. The furies remind me of the fire/temperament references in desciptions of the mothertrinity Lyda, Finda and Frya. The old feuds 'laid to rest' in selfcongratulating Platonic/patriarchal Greece)
Paul, Jewish founder of Christianity
The dissapeared 'letter to the Laodiceans' by founder of Catholic Christianity Paul would have decried their 'weak faith'. Paul
never stopped his Jewish traditions, and deemed them 'not neccesary'for Goy Christians(maintaining racial exceptionalism; jews refused to accept other gods.With this sentiment(read "Maccabeans'in the bible)any tribally aware person can relate and respect it.
But the other two wings of Abrahamics are universalist, and what is disputed to be the true toxicity of Abrahamics is exactly around this point; the claim of a universal divine decree, where a foreign ethnic god, specifically the deamon of a people is forced on other people, erasing their ethnic roots.Even though at first Christianity may have started as a 'mere co-option' and hybridizing of/mixing with European themes; the stubbornness of calling Yaweh God is a poison pill for a universalist continental creed. Why not Jezus son of Zeus/ the Aion? Maybe because Yahweh is a rebel like Jezus -and the Jews? In hope Jews would submit to the new teaching? Or that this plea would be the 'controlled oposition'of its time?
On the other hand, we need to understand that while Jesus is a cthonic virgin and Logos/Lord of Justice to a European, to a Jew Jezus/Esau/Rome might be like Kelta; a high value puer, who is too confident while not ripened in the wisdom of the ancestors. A gaslit upstart (once the ancestral was lost); any new culture(including mercantilism, democracy, socialism, liberalism, Christian conservatism, (post)modernism) would become a 'righteous'stance ready to be instrumentalised. A Golem. The same dynamics are used in Jewish nationalism and Islamic conquest, making them will-less cogs in the machine too, fueling the perpetuum mobile of politics.
Hellenism understood itself as a bona fide(good faith) strenght, where reason, will to peace, justice, good would prevail by honest examination, but was -and still is- swept up by these entrenched positions, that are easily whipped up to not submit to Oresteia's lessons.(mythvision on satan) While OLM origin mythos of Kelta, Minerva Rosamund and Adela to me shows it all to have a more meta story of insight.
Sidenote; the first thing Paul was propagating on Christ was his resurection,son (re)becoming the Father.
My theory is this is likely as competition to the Thesmaphoria;Persephone as the risen citymother returned from Hades/Hell wich could be the education from/in the north or local Koré-school/synode learning ancestral knowledge equaling/becoming an earthly representant of Demeter. Hecate represented this trinity in one.
Esoterica; What is Theurgy? Ancient Pagan Salvation through Ritual, Philosophy and Unity with the Divine
It becomes quiet spiritual if you look at it as Wralda and his spirit(in us) relating to matter(the maternal), probably a core contention in old vs newer understandings.
How do we spiritually relate to matter, time and the given world and it's limits and our partaking in it. A very fundamental filosofical debate relating to Electra again too. I can see the wealth of sermons that can be spun from these themes.
Expanding our understanding of the spiritual/filosofical themes of Greek times with the topics I've provided here, we can really see how a strong (very OLM-like)tradition was being changed with eastern thought, mysticism and uproar.
With all the talk of Zeus I think we are coded to not see the strong Feminine root in Greek traditions.
In Oresteia Apollo needs to be confirmed by Athena still.
The Greek (Anatolia first) would have been weakenend by hermetics and accepted Christianity as the masculine role in a gnostic version Sophia, who interstingly reconnects to matter and electricity in the Oistis Sopia (The GNOSTIC Bride of Christ: Who Was Sophia?) It also connects to Hermetic, Egypian themes and Jewish writing styles like in the biblical Psalms.
wikipedia;
Pistis Sophia.
Codex_Askewianes
Gnostic ways would be part of Theosophy and Esoteric Hyperborean beliefs, that can be scrutinized but at least these people understood that myth has value.
Fall Asleep to the ENTIRE Story of Hyperborea
What is Hyperborea? With Evola's thoughts and mention of OLB, both videos have nice visuals.
The later church would condemn gnosticism(that was somewhat preserved in Cathars and Rosicrucians). I presume this was done to cut off the remnant link to the bygone era. It would be a weakness to the institute's desire for doctrine after the need dissapeared to liquify esoterical understanding, after it smoothed abandoning the European roots. Gnosticism kind of gives the formula of religious Magic away too.
the more I study the bible the more I realize a lot of humanity, even critics of Christianity or other teachings take it 'as gospel'. As if there is no deeper reason or influence, or outright dishonesty in what has been delivered though time. As a collection of stories served to dress up an authority, many great stories were likely entwined, mimicked and changed to fit that purpose.
The name Laodicea: Summary
Meaning
Place Of People Of Common Fairness
Etymology
From (1) the noun λαος (laos), (common) people, and (2) the noun δικη (dike), justice.
Related names
• Via λαος (laos): Archelaus, Nicolaitans, Nicolas
• Via δικη (dike): Dike
The name Laodicea in the Bible
The name Laodicea and the ethnonym Λαοδικευς (Laodicean) occur about half a dozen times in the New Testament. Laodicea is the name of a city which was formerly known as Diospolis, and which was situated on the river Lycus, close to Colossae and Hierapolis, either within or else just south of the ancient kingdom of Phrygia, in central Anatolia (modern Turkey).
In his letter to the Colossians, Paul speaks of his great struggle for the Colossians and for the Laodiceans, although he hadn't visited either, at least up until the time of writing (Colossians 1:4, 2:1, but see Acts 18:23 and 19:10). At the end of his letter to the Colossians, Paul conveys the unspecified concerns of church founder Epaphras concerning those of Laodicea and Hierapolis (Colossians 4:13), and salutes the brothers of Laodicea along with Nympha and the church in her house (Colossians 4:15).
In Colossians 4:16 Paul refers to a letter to the church of the Laodiceans which we no longer possess. To rectify this sad loss, someone in the second or third century AD produced a kind of Paul's Greatest Hits compilation (composed largely of statements found in Paul's letters to the Philippians, Galatians and Colossians) and named it Paul's Letter To The Laodiceans. It's unknown what the original selling price of it was but since this product is still with us today, we may assume that it circulated in heavy rotation; a kind of Da Vinci Code of its day. It was probably written in Greek but exists today only in Latin.
Laodicea is also one of the seven cities in Asia Minor, which Jesus addressed through John the Revelator (Revelation 1:11 and 3:14).
The name Laodicea occurs 7 times in the New Testament; see full concordance.
Etymology of the name Laodicea
The name Laodicea comes from the common feminine personal name Laodice (which doesn't occur in the Bible), and that's because it was named after the wife of the Seleucid king Antiochus II, who in turn (we may assume) was named after the great-great-great-great-great-granddaughter of none other than Zeus, namely Laodice the daughter of Priam of Troy and his second wife Hecuba, as mentioned in Homer's Iliad (and read our article on Hellas for a lengthy look at the Iliad).
The name Laodice/Laodicea consists of two elements. The first element is the noun λαος (laos), meaning (common) people:
Excerpted from: Abarim Publications' Biblical Dictionary
λαος
The noun λαος (laos) means people and is one of a few words to do so. What precisely distinguishes this word from the others is hard to say — it mostly implies the common masses at large, but so do the others — but it bears a remarkable resemblance to the adjective ιλαος (hilaos), to be propitious, gracious or kindly favored toward men, as well as the noun λαας (laas), stone (or record keepers), and λεον (leon), lion, which helps to explain the many proverbial lions in ancient texts. That word for lion in turn looks like it has to do with the adverb λεως (leos), wholly or entirely, which is turn relates to the adverb λιαν (lian), very, very much or greatly, noun ληις (leis), booty or spoil, and the noun lucrum, profit, from which derives the adjective lucrative.
The second part of the name Laodicea comes from the potent noun δικη (dike), meaning justice:
Excerpted from: Abarim Publications' Biblical Dictionary
δικη
The noun δικη (dike) means justice in a formal, judicial sense, and fairness in a common sense. Ultimately, it denotes a harmony with the rules of the universe, and can be easily recognized from stability and perpetuity in all sorts of circumstances. Injustice, in a cosmological sense, causes instability and ultimately demise. This word comes with a long list of compound derivatives.
The noun δικτυον (diktuon) means fishing net. It's not technically related to δικη (dike), but in the hands of a gifted poet may still help to explain why the disciples would be fishers of men.
Laodicea meaning
The name Laodice stems from deep antiquity and it's difficult to establish what it may have meant to the original name giver.
Henry George Liddell and Robert Scott's A Greek-English Lexicon lists what appears to be a variant or at least a related term: Λαοδικος (laodikos), meaning tried by the people, which would contain almost an oxymoron. The common people didn't do any trying in the legal sense. Magistrates did that. But if the names of gods and demigods could be indicative of their relationship to mankind (they frequently are), Laodice could convey humanity's motivation to standardize codes of conduct, something that eventually led to formal law.
Perhaps Laodice denoted the judicial counterpart of street-wisdom; the common sense of everyday fairness. In that case a personification in the form of a demigoddess named Laodice would govern the social cohesion of a people that follow the precepts of common fairness (which would be represented by the higher-ranking goddess Dike, whose name is identical to our noun δικη, dike). The name Laodicea would therefore mean Place Of People Of Common Fairness.
https://www.abarim-publications.com/Mea ... dicea.html
Wiktionary.org
Laodicea (uncountable)
(historical) Various former cities in West Asia, including
Former name of Nahavand: a city in Iran.
A former city in Caria and Lydia, near modern Denizli in Denizli Province, Turkey, chiefly known for its role in early Christianity.
The Nazis built an amberroom, maybe it would have Vril-powers?
A Rock Is Trapped Light
But other things I found are already interesting, my roaming mind connecting dots, that nicely string like beads on the tread of OL. So, I tried to find hours of enjoyable documentaries to illustrate the train of thought, that will hopefully lay a map where you may find worthwhile ways to progress in your spiritual understanding.
In Greek amber is Electra, the name of a caracter in Oresteia, a play about revenge and justice. Also interchanged by different writers with the name Laodike (etymology below), connecting (democratic)judgement with amber - which of course(both?) came from the illustrous North.
(This play however may have a post-war bias, and other things to consider searching a reason for the use of her name and the general plot/lesson. The furies remind me of the fire/temperament references in desciptions of the mothertrinity Lyda, Finda and Frya. The old feuds 'laid to rest' in selfcongratulating Platonic/patriarchal Greece)
Paul, Jewish founder of Christianity
The dissapeared 'letter to the Laodiceans' by founder of Catholic Christianity Paul would have decried their 'weak faith'. Paul
never stopped his Jewish traditions, and deemed them 'not neccesary'for Goy Christians(maintaining racial exceptionalism; jews refused to accept other gods.With this sentiment(read "Maccabeans'in the bible)any tribally aware person can relate and respect it.
But the other two wings of Abrahamics are universalist, and what is disputed to be the true toxicity of Abrahamics is exactly around this point; the claim of a universal divine decree, where a foreign ethnic god, specifically the deamon of a people is forced on other people, erasing their ethnic roots.Even though at first Christianity may have started as a 'mere co-option' and hybridizing of/mixing with European themes; the stubbornness of calling Yaweh God is a poison pill for a universalist continental creed. Why not Jezus son of Zeus/ the Aion? Maybe because Yahweh is a rebel like Jezus -and the Jews? In hope Jews would submit to the new teaching? Or that this plea would be the 'controlled oposition'of its time?
On the other hand, we need to understand that while Jesus is a cthonic virgin and Logos/Lord of Justice to a European, to a Jew Jezus/Esau/Rome might be like Kelta; a high value puer, who is too confident while not ripened in the wisdom of the ancestors. A gaslit upstart (once the ancestral was lost); any new culture(including mercantilism, democracy, socialism, liberalism, Christian conservatism, (post)modernism) would become a 'righteous'stance ready to be instrumentalised. A Golem. The same dynamics are used in Jewish nationalism and Islamic conquest, making them will-less cogs in the machine too, fueling the perpetuum mobile of politics.
Hellenism understood itself as a bona fide(good faith) strenght, where reason, will to peace, justice, good would prevail by honest examination, but was -and still is- swept up by these entrenched positions, that are easily whipped up to not submit to Oresteia's lessons.(mythvision on satan) While OLM origin mythos of Kelta, Minerva Rosamund and Adela to me shows it all to have a more meta story of insight.
Sidenote; the first thing Paul was propagating on Christ was his resurection,son (re)becoming the Father.
My theory is this is likely as competition to the Thesmaphoria;Persephone as the risen citymother returned from Hades/Hell wich could be the education from/in the north or local Koré-school/synode learning ancestral knowledge equaling/becoming an earthly representant of Demeter. Hecate represented this trinity in one.
Esoterica; What is Theurgy? Ancient Pagan Salvation through Ritual, Philosophy and Unity with the Divine
It becomes quiet spiritual if you look at it as Wralda and his spirit(in us) relating to matter(the maternal), probably a core contention in old vs newer understandings.
How do we spiritually relate to matter, time and the given world and it's limits and our partaking in it. A very fundamental filosofical debate relating to Electra again too. I can see the wealth of sermons that can be spun from these themes.
Expanding our understanding of the spiritual/filosofical themes of Greek times with the topics I've provided here, we can really see how a strong (very OLM-like)tradition was being changed with eastern thought, mysticism and uproar.
With all the talk of Zeus I think we are coded to not see the strong Feminine root in Greek traditions.
In Oresteia Apollo needs to be confirmed by Athena still.
The Greek (Anatolia first) would have been weakenend by hermetics and accepted Christianity as the masculine role in a gnostic version Sophia, who interstingly reconnects to matter and electricity in the Oistis Sopia (The GNOSTIC Bride of Christ: Who Was Sophia?) It also connects to Hermetic, Egypian themes and Jewish writing styles like in the biblical Psalms.
wikipedia;
Pistis Sophia.
Codex_Askewianes
Gnostic ways would be part of Theosophy and Esoteric Hyperborean beliefs, that can be scrutinized but at least these people understood that myth has value.
Fall Asleep to the ENTIRE Story of Hyperborea
What is Hyperborea? With Evola's thoughts and mention of OLB, both videos have nice visuals.
The later church would condemn gnosticism(that was somewhat preserved in Cathars and Rosicrucians). I presume this was done to cut off the remnant link to the bygone era. It would be a weakness to the institute's desire for doctrine after the need dissapeared to liquify esoterical understanding, after it smoothed abandoning the European roots. Gnosticism kind of gives the formula of religious Magic away too.
the more I study the bible the more I realize a lot of humanity, even critics of Christianity or other teachings take it 'as gospel'. As if there is no deeper reason or influence, or outright dishonesty in what has been delivered though time. As a collection of stories served to dress up an authority, many great stories were likely entwined, mimicked and changed to fit that purpose.
The name Laodicea: Summary
Meaning
Place Of People Of Common Fairness
Etymology
From (1) the noun λαος (laos), (common) people, and (2) the noun δικη (dike), justice.
Related names
• Via λαος (laos): Archelaus, Nicolaitans, Nicolas
• Via δικη (dike): Dike
The name Laodicea in the Bible
The name Laodicea and the ethnonym Λαοδικευς (Laodicean) occur about half a dozen times in the New Testament. Laodicea is the name of a city which was formerly known as Diospolis, and which was situated on the river Lycus, close to Colossae and Hierapolis, either within or else just south of the ancient kingdom of Phrygia, in central Anatolia (modern Turkey).
In his letter to the Colossians, Paul speaks of his great struggle for the Colossians and for the Laodiceans, although he hadn't visited either, at least up until the time of writing (Colossians 1:4, 2:1, but see Acts 18:23 and 19:10). At the end of his letter to the Colossians, Paul conveys the unspecified concerns of church founder Epaphras concerning those of Laodicea and Hierapolis (Colossians 4:13), and salutes the brothers of Laodicea along with Nympha and the church in her house (Colossians 4:15).
In Colossians 4:16 Paul refers to a letter to the church of the Laodiceans which we no longer possess. To rectify this sad loss, someone in the second or third century AD produced a kind of Paul's Greatest Hits compilation (composed largely of statements found in Paul's letters to the Philippians, Galatians and Colossians) and named it Paul's Letter To The Laodiceans. It's unknown what the original selling price of it was but since this product is still with us today, we may assume that it circulated in heavy rotation; a kind of Da Vinci Code of its day. It was probably written in Greek but exists today only in Latin.
Laodicea is also one of the seven cities in Asia Minor, which Jesus addressed through John the Revelator (Revelation 1:11 and 3:14).
The name Laodicea occurs 7 times in the New Testament; see full concordance.
Etymology of the name Laodicea
The name Laodicea comes from the common feminine personal name Laodice (which doesn't occur in the Bible), and that's because it was named after the wife of the Seleucid king Antiochus II, who in turn (we may assume) was named after the great-great-great-great-great-granddaughter of none other than Zeus, namely Laodice the daughter of Priam of Troy and his second wife Hecuba, as mentioned in Homer's Iliad (and read our article on Hellas for a lengthy look at the Iliad).
The name Laodice/Laodicea consists of two elements. The first element is the noun λαος (laos), meaning (common) people:
Excerpted from: Abarim Publications' Biblical Dictionary
λαος
The noun λαος (laos) means people and is one of a few words to do so. What precisely distinguishes this word from the others is hard to say — it mostly implies the common masses at large, but so do the others — but it bears a remarkable resemblance to the adjective ιλαος (hilaos), to be propitious, gracious or kindly favored toward men, as well as the noun λαας (laas), stone (or record keepers), and λεον (leon), lion, which helps to explain the many proverbial lions in ancient texts. That word for lion in turn looks like it has to do with the adverb λεως (leos), wholly or entirely, which is turn relates to the adverb λιαν (lian), very, very much or greatly, noun ληις (leis), booty or spoil, and the noun lucrum, profit, from which derives the adjective lucrative.
The second part of the name Laodicea comes from the potent noun δικη (dike), meaning justice:
Excerpted from: Abarim Publications' Biblical Dictionary
δικη
The noun δικη (dike) means justice in a formal, judicial sense, and fairness in a common sense. Ultimately, it denotes a harmony with the rules of the universe, and can be easily recognized from stability and perpetuity in all sorts of circumstances. Injustice, in a cosmological sense, causes instability and ultimately demise. This word comes with a long list of compound derivatives.
The noun δικτυον (diktuon) means fishing net. It's not technically related to δικη (dike), but in the hands of a gifted poet may still help to explain why the disciples would be fishers of men.
Laodicea meaning
The name Laodice stems from deep antiquity and it's difficult to establish what it may have meant to the original name giver.
Henry George Liddell and Robert Scott's A Greek-English Lexicon lists what appears to be a variant or at least a related term: Λαοδικος (laodikos), meaning tried by the people, which would contain almost an oxymoron. The common people didn't do any trying in the legal sense. Magistrates did that. But if the names of gods and demigods could be indicative of their relationship to mankind (they frequently are), Laodice could convey humanity's motivation to standardize codes of conduct, something that eventually led to formal law.
Perhaps Laodice denoted the judicial counterpart of street-wisdom; the common sense of everyday fairness. In that case a personification in the form of a demigoddess named Laodice would govern the social cohesion of a people that follow the precepts of common fairness (which would be represented by the higher-ranking goddess Dike, whose name is identical to our noun δικη, dike). The name Laodicea would therefore mean Place Of People Of Common Fairness.
https://www.abarim-publications.com/Mea ... dicea.html
Wiktionary.org
Laodicea (uncountable)
(historical) Various former cities in West Asia, including
Former name of Nahavand: a city in Iran.
A former city in Caria and Lydia, near modern Denizli in Denizli Province, Turkey, chiefly known for its role in early Christianity.